More deep thoughts from the mind of my brother…

"a balance diet for the Tazmanian devil is a beer in each hand xD"

Sinuses Shminuses

 I've been flying for only 6 years, deploying for 4, and I've deployed 7 times.  In that time I've never had a problem with my sinuses…ever. 

About a month ago we were descending to land and I started feeling a small amount of pressure in my left cheek.  Since I'd never had a sinus block before and I thought the pilots were going to continue a shallow descent I would tough it out.  Then they increased the descent. 

HOLY FUCK THIS HURTS! We're at 2,500ft..that's not very high…how much worse could it get? I can do this…i'm not calling "go around!"

2000ft…(I will start by telling you what actually happened and then I will tell you how it went in my mind) 

I feel like my tooth is going to explode, it's hard to breathe because of the pain, and i can't even think of how to form words.  I double over, and reach over to 'My Pet' grab his arm and begin to pull him around his chair. 

My Pet: "Pilot, we have a problem back here!"

Pete: "What?! What do you mean a problem?"

My Pet: "Something is wrong with the Nav!"

Pete: "What?!"

My Pet: "I don't know pilot she just…"

I begin franticly giving him the signal to climb.

My Pet: "Climb pilot she has a block."

He begins digging through his bag in search of Afrin.

Pete: "Crew, we're going around."

Then there were radio calls and lots of pilot stuff.  Now let me tell you how I saw those events that probably only took seconds…

2000ft…

I feel like my tooth is going to explode, it's hard to breathe because of the pain, and i can't even think of how to form words.  I double over, and reach over to 'My Pet' grab his arm and begin to pull him around his chair. 

That's it my tooth is literally going to explode in my mouth.

What is that like? Is it just a pop or will their be tooth pieces in my cheek?

Will it stop hurting once it explodes? 

Oh GOD! Why isn't he helping me? 

Why is he just fucking staring at me like that?! 

My Pet: "Pilot, we have a problem back here!"

You're fucking right we do! tell him to fucking climb! oh my fucking god I wish he would just knock me out, that would be better. 

Why aren't we climbing, I wish i could remember how to talk!

Pete: "What?! what do you mean a problem?" 

For all that is holy just say climb! why won't he say it? Does he hate me? I wish my head would just explode already.

My Pet: "Something is wrong with the Nav!"

I'm obviously dying here people!

Pete: "What?!"

How can i tell him to climb? what can i do to make him understand?!

My Pet: "I don't know pilot she just…"

Fuck i've got it….thumb up and act like i want a fucking helo to pick me up. OK I'VE BEEN DOING THIS MOTION FOR AT LEAST 5 MINUTES NOW! WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!!!

My Pet: "Climb pilot, she has a block!"

Blah Blah pilot stuff…Ok now you know how it went in my head versus reality….to me that took at least 45 minutes in reality it couldn't have been more than a couple.

We climb and I begin inhaling Afrin like it's my only hope. I'm still positive my tooth is going to explode.  We actually had a Navy flight doctor onboard and he was sent back to my station.  He looked and made sure i wasn't bleeding from my nose or gums and then he explained to me what was actually happening and trying to convince me that my tooth wasn't going to explode…it took a lot of Afrin before i believed him.

Navy Doc: "Ok you're not bleeding and that's a good sign.  Just keep taking the Afrin while i talk. You have a sinus block meaning no air can get in or out of your sinus.  Like your water bottle here as the pressure gets greater and it shrinks so does your sinus, but because the air can't get out it just keeps pushing harder and harder.  Right now the pain you're feeling in your teeth is because your sinus is trying so hard to collapse it is actually pulling the roots and nerves of your tooth up into your head."

Me: "So it's not going to explode?"

Navy Doc: "No."

Me: "It really feels like it."

Navy Doc: "That's because you're basically having your teeth pulled with no Novocain. Does it feel better now that we're higher?"

Me: "Yes.  I can talk now."

and by "talk now" I meant that i can sit in my seat, white knuckling my station, and forcing myself to breath like i'm preparing for child birth.

I'm still in a lot of pain but it's improving and we need to land so I say that i'm ready.

I watch the altimeter continue to drop and the pain is getting worse. 

Breath, just keep breathing, he said he wouldn't explode, he promised it wouldn't explode, what if my sinus explodes? not as bad…i'll still have all of me teeth. 

We land and J takes me to the Air Force flight doctor.  

J: "You're going to be down for like 3-4 days."

Me: "Yeah, i figured"

Let me take a minute to describe our flight doc….I'm not sure if she is even five feet tall, this is her first deployment, and she's resembles a hispanic umpaloompa.  

AF Doc: "What's going on?"

Me: "We just landed, I have a sinus block and it's killing me." 

I point to the left side of my face where the pain is.

AF Doc: "How are your ears?"

Me: "Uh, there's nothing wrong with my ears."

AF Doc: "So they cleared fine? No pain?"

Me: "No but I thought my tooth was going to explode and my face is killing me!"

I point to the left side of my face again.

J: "Ha, I'll be outside."

J walks out trying not to laugh.

Me: "I've never had this before."

AF Doc: "Have you been congested or do you have a cold?"

Me: "No and I didn't feel anything on the way up but we had to climb and i took like a whole bottle of Afrin and it still hurts."

AF Doc: "Yeah it's going to hurt for awhile. Let me see you clear your ears."

Me: "My ears are fine!"

I clear my ears while she looks at them…

AF Doc: "Well they look fine.  Here's some sudafed and more afrin.  Take two of these every 6 hours and just come by tomorrow if it hurts to bad to fly."

Me: "Uh that's it?"

AF Doc: "Yeah, If you don't feel like flying come back."

I walk out and J takes me back to the Alert Facility where our crew is getting this together to go back to our rooms. We walk in and the Navy flight doc is still there.

Pete: "Are you ok? what'd she say? how long are you down for?"

Me: "Well it still really hurts, she asked if my ears were ok, and she said I can fly tomorrow if I want to."

A collective WTF

Navy Flight Doc: "Uh I don't want to over step my bounds here but if you were in the Navy I would ground you for at least three to four days.  You really shouldn't be flying soon after something like this."

Pete: "Yeah you're not flying tomorrow."

I spent the next couple of days doped up on Afrin and taking motrin to combat my tooth and facial pain.  Over the next couple of weeks I had a couple sinus headaches but the flights went fine until a couple of days ago.  On descent I felt the same pain but this time I started the Afrin early and although it was uncomfortable I was able to get down without delay.  The next day before work I went back to the flight doc because i've never had sinus issues before and some people have suggested that I might have a small sinus infection or that my deployment allergies have worsened and I should try Flonaise. 

I walk in and the little ompaloompa is no where to be seen.  The MSgt med tech asks if he can help me and I give him a brief description of what has happened and that I would like some more Afrin, sudafed, and flonaise. 

Med Tech: "She's going to have to dnif you."

(DNIF: Duties Not Including Flying)

Me: "I bet she doesn't."

Med Tech: "If something is wrong with your sinuses and you take sudafed and Afrin then you're automatically dnif."

Me: "Oh I know those are the rules but i'm telling you she's not going to dnif."

After about 15 minutes of small talk between myself and the med tech he goes and asks the Flight doc (again) to please come see me because I need to get to my flight brief. 

AF Flight Doc: "What's up?"

Me: "Well I had another sinus block on my last flight, so that's two in a month."

AF Flight Doc: "Can you clear your ears?"

Me: "Yes"

AF flight doc: "Do they hurt?"

Me: "Does what hurt? My ears? NO! There is STILL nothing wrong with my ears.  It's my face! Right here!"

AF flight doc: "Does it still hurt?"

Me: "No, because I took enough Afrin to kill a horse yesterday."

AF Flight Doc: "Oh so you just need more Afrin?"

Me: "Uh well I do need more Afrin and sudafed but i think something is wrong if I've never had sinus trouble and now I've had two blocks in less than a month.  I was thinking I could have some kind of small infection or maybe my allergies to the dust are getting worse so I could try flonaise."

AF Flight Doc: "Ok MSgt, go get her some more Afrin and sudafed. So you can clear your ears though?"

Me: "YES! At no point since this started have I had any problems with my ears!"

MSgt walks up with my meds.

AF Flight Doc: "Ok well here you go."

Med Tech: "um Ma'am you do know she's going to her flight brief."

AF Flight Doc: "Yes"

Med Tech: "So that she can fly."

AF Flight Doc: "Oh yeah, have a good flight."

Me: "Ha yeah well assuming my face doesn't explode, thanks."

The MSgt looked as disgusted as I felt and I walked out to go fly. FML.

Foot Loose:

Sitting in the DFAC (Dining Facility) my crew and I are enoying yet another amazing meal. Entertainment Tonight is playing on one of the tv's when segment on the 'Foot loose' remake comes on.

My pet: "I never understood why anyone likes this movie and how did they learn to dance so well so quickly?"

Samwise Gamgee: "I know what a stupid idea for a movie. Like those back woods hicks don't know what dancing is until some city kid comes and shows them. 'Oh we ain't got no electricty, thanks for showing us how people live.'"

Me: "Wait what? That's not the plot of that movie.  They don't dance for religious reasons not because they don't know what dancing is."

My Pet: "Ok but how did they get so good at it so quickly?"

Dan: "It's a movie."

Me: "And it's dancing it's something some people can just do."

My Pet: "I can't."

Samwise Gamgee: "Me either."

Me: "That's because you have no rhythm."

My Pet: "True."

Samwise Gamgee: "Oh I have great rhythm I just don't like the music."

Me to Dan: "Did he just say that he has rhythm but cannot dance because he does not like music? hahahah"

Dan to Me: "hahaha yes.  That is definitely what he said."

Me to Dan: "ok i had to check."

Me to Samwise Gamgee: "haha ok that's it, you're going on the website."

Samwise Gamgee: "I don't know if I should be honored or scared about that."

Me: "We'll see, but I have to start sharing these things."

 

 

As usual names have been changed to protect the identity of the guilty.

Status

This is my brother's status right now.

"The years rolled slowly past 

And I found myself alone
Surrounded by strangers I thought were my friends
I found myself further and further from my home
And I guess I lost my way
There were oh so many roads
I was living to run and running to live
Never worryied about paying or even how much I owed
Moving eight miles a minute for months at a time
Breaking all of the rules that would bend

Bob Seger Lyrics"

BOB SEGER HAD A JOB A-HOLE!

Fun's over

My mother has decided she does not care about y'alls amusement.  I just got back to my room from work and this is the email I had waiting for me… 

"To avoid any hard feelings, I told Mac to block you on Facebook. I didn't tell him that you have been making fun of him on your blog." 

This was my reply:
"You are going to end up blocked on FB party pooper... If you didn't want him to be made fun of you should have either raised us both to be retarded or neither... 1:1 is no bueno"



I can't hit him... I can't try to make him a better person... I'm not allowed to at least bring others joy through his weirdness. Ugh! Also I'd like to point out my mother has told me how not amusing any of my blog entries are and she only checks to see if I'm making fun of precious... and if precious puts it out into cyberspace why can't I just repost it???

Discussion class

TOPIC:

People say that everyone is equal in the United States and anyone can be anything. It is true because there are laws of discrimination against minorities. But if there were no laws against discrimination would the companies treat all the employees the same regardless of their culture or skin color?

NICK K:

"Generally, yes I’d like to think that there would be no difference whether there is a law or not. I think all reputable companies would still have a public policy of treating everyone fairly because it would be bad for business if they didn’t. Though it would probably be a small percentage, there would still be people within those companies that would discriminate against others. For as far as our society has gone from the days of segregation and outright discrimination, there still are retards out there that are brought up to dislike, or learn to dislike, people that are different."

MY RESPONSE TO NICK K:

"hahaha it's awesome that you used the word "Retard" to describe closed minded people who discriminate… if you employ a person with downs syndrome to stock the shelves at wal-mart and use words like "retard" to mean stupid you will be referred to as closed minded for discrimination.  I'm not judging…I just thought it was funny.  Also a side note: my squadron had bumper stickers that said "I'm a gunship guy, you're a homo…" apparently this upset the homosexuals on our base so they complained to the JAG.  Maybe we could change them to read "I'm a gunship guy, you're a retard…"'

BAHAHA MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S LATE AND I SHOULD BE SLEEPING BUT HE REALLY SAID 'RETARD.'  

SO I JUST REALIZED THIS CLASS DOES NOT HAVE ANY TESTS AND IS JUST THESE DISCUSSION BOARDS AND THE PAPERS WE WRITE….I HAVE LIKE A 95 AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO MAKE ME SUCH A LAUGH WHORE SO THIS IS WHAT I DO INSTEAD OF SLEEP! 

More from brother's Facebook page

I can't sleep.  Work on my homework? Not when I can just keep clicking "Older Posts" on my brother's facebook page and find something to entertain you. 

 

My Brother: "Is Moody, over-critical of himself, Alchohol Fueled, slovenly, doesn't listen or Pay attention, An opportunist, A vicous Procrastonator, Sarcastic, and a Giant Smartass...Wanna be friends????"

Seriously? I'm starting to believe in late term abortion… 100th trimester…when is "late term" really too late? 

(Thanks to MW for the late term abortion comment)

Little Brother

I know some of you need a little more of my brother in your life so i think until he blocks me again i'm going to take random things from his facebook page and post them here for you to see… 

After making some comment about Lebron James and expressing his opinion of the city of Miami someone called him harsh and this was his response:

 

"[Brother]:  what can i say michael...im a tazmanian devil with clood blooded fury running through my veins...well that and alchohol hahah"

BEAT THE WENCHES!

THIS IS A CONTINUING THREAD…MY QUESTION TO TAMMY L WAS:

" I think it is important not to judge our societal norms against those of another country. A question that immediately came to my mind when it said women are treated unfairly was, by who's definition? I know we are share some common definitions of fair and unfair, but in some countries that is their norm."

I just want to make sure I understand that you're saying that you think we shouldn't judge other cultures for their treatment of women…

TAMMY L'S ANSWER? 

I was saying that there are some common norms shared by all humans - you shouldn't rape, murder, etc., but if a woman is seen as a second-class citizen in another country, we cannot justify that as fair or normal by how a woman is treated in our own culture. In may foreign cultures religion plays a major role in how the members of its society are treated and we simply cannot determine a fairness level for that based on our own cultural norms. Does that help?

DEAR TAMMY…YOU MIGHT BE RETARDED.  YOU'RE RIGHT, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT NICE TO THE MENTALLY HANDICAPPED… DEAR TAMMY YOU'RE A DUMB TWAT.  THERE, THAT'S BETTER. 

MY RESPONSE TO TAMMY:

"yes…in fact it is incredibly helpful.  A second class citizen has fewer rights, meaning they are less human than those with full rights.  Second class citizens get punished for being raped, second class citizens get beaten and arrested for driving with out a penis, second class citizens are forced into early marriages (we call this "pedophilia" or "statutory rape" they call it "OK") domestic violence against second class citizens is not criminal and on and on and on…yeah i shouldn't judge.  I mean they're people too and if the way the men in their society have chosen to interpret a book (that was obviously magically zapped to earth by God and not written by other men) then that's a beautiful thing… let's do business without judging. BEAT THE WENCHES!"

SOMETIMES I REALLY REALLY LOVE HOW AWFUL I AM….MAINLY BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH I REALLY REALLY HATE PEOPLE

Bit More

THEY AREN'T FIGHTING BACK SO MAYBE I'LL TRY THIS…

John P:

"In 2004 there was a major scandal in the Air Force regarding a Major General who happened to be the most senior JAG (lawyer) in the Air Force.  It seems the General engaged in inappropriate relationships with his female subordinates.  There were allegations he would require them to allow him to give them foot massages and other unprofessional behavior of that sort.  Maj General Fiscus avoided courts martial but was reprimanded under Article 15 of the UCMJ and forfeited a month's pay ($10,600), was reduced in rank to Colonel and retired.  I can't imagine what sort of environment that was to work in.  I would not want to be a young woman whose boss kept asking to rub her feet and who knows what else.  Especially when he's a General."
MY RESPONSE TO JOHNNY:
1.   "I would have laughed in his face and told everyone…. unless he was hot…although i've never seen a hot general so we can assume he wasn't, wait…i googled him…WHOA yeah that's a big no. it's also a no go if he's asking to rub ALL of the girls feet…i mean at least make me feel special ya little creeper… "

Little more

(This is my original post to the Ethical or not question…I'm sorry if this is becoming hard to follow but i'm pretty much attacking on all levels so this found below is my response to the teacher's question and then what people wrote in response)

MY POST:

"Share with your peers: Ethical or Unethical. Why or why not? Calling in sick when you really are not. Trying to flirt your way out of a speeding ticket. Making a hard copy of a DVD before returning in to the store. Taking home office supplies."

Something tells me I will get some very holy replies to my thoughts on this judging from previous posts. 

 I've only been in the military so I can't relate to sick days b/c when we get sick if you HAVE to be at work you go in unless you're put on quarters and seeing as no one wants you there usually someone says "you're disgusting. go home…" so you usually end up at home…but from what i understand you have so many sick days and i personally think that those are your days so if you want to risk wasting one of them when you're not really sick then go for it…

 I can't flirt my way out of a paper bag but i do keep my military ID on top of my driver's license in the hope that the officer might let me go in some patriotic gesture.  Also my Dad is a police officer and I would mention his name to get out of tickets… so i can't say that i'm that much better than some one more capable of flirting or who at least doesn't find it whore-ish.  I'll add that i've only been pulled over twice in 13yrs. 

  I haven't rented a DVD in years but while deployed people purchase pirated movies and tv shows for next to nothing and then they're shared…i've never purchased any b/c honestly the bizarre creeps me out and i usually just buy seasons of shows from amazon and while not on the up and up i don't care if people don't go pay more for a dvd just b/c i do…

Everyone takes home office supplies.  If the Air Force can waste millions on the Academy, PME, forced degrees, the bands, ugly uniforms they're just going to change in a year, etc I really don't think everyone stealing a pen once every few months is going to break them.  There's levels of office supplies…not really a blanket answer.

Kathi M. says

"Calling in sick when you're not sick can get you some really bad karma.  I think people should not use sick days when they aren't sick for several reasons, one of which is you can never predict when you will have a serious illness or injury and need the sick days.  I can relate to what you wrote about your military ID on top of your ID. My brother was a cop and kept his ID on top of his license when traveling so he could get a "professional courtesy" if pulled over.  One time, even that didn't help him!  Ethics is something you are taught over your lifetime and are ingrained into your personality."

Tammy L responds to Kathi M's judgment:

"Your response is quite interesting! I think calling in sick when you are not isn't as easily explained as you did. I have two young children and a husband and last year we took a family vacation in the summer that used all but one of my vacation days. In the fall our heat pump went out and my husband was out of town so I took a vacation day to meet the tech there. He diagnosed the issue but had to come back to install it and that took an entire day (I had to "call in sick" since I didn't have any vacation days left). I did ensure that all of my work was current, that I brough my laptop home so I could check emails and voicemails regulary and I worked late the following day to complete anything that was pressing. Do you think this was unethical and I will get bad karma? I sure hope not because my girls were freezing with no heat and I had no where else to turn! (We relocated and have no family around to call on either!)"

Kathi M backpedals: 

"Tammy, I don't think it was unethical to prevent your girls from freezing without heat!  That was a smart, preventative, proactive move!  There are always gray areas.  Things are not cut and dry.  You weren't trying to take advantage of the system.  You did more than many would have by ensuring your work stayed caught up.  Hope you are enjoying the heat now!  We sure are!"

Tammy L isn't falling for it but women pretending to be friendly is so fun!:

"Enjoying the heat is an overstatement! I am glad I wasn't being unethical - futher proof that ethics aren't black and white, there are definitely shades of gray!"

MY RESPONSE TO TAMMY L B/C I THINK IT'S MORE FUN TO JUST SAY IT:

"I like that everything is in fact black and white and most people point out the evils of using your own sick days how you see fit until a person points out a situation where they did and then "oh uh well obviously not you…ya know bad people…." If you had been a nameless  example it would have been pointed out that you shouldn't have taken so many vacation days for your vacation blah blah blah…. I love awkward…even reading it.. so thank you for "i'm glad i wasn't being unethical"

THESE POSTS ARE THE ONLY THING KEEPING ME FROM FIREBOMBING THE UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS 

THE SECOND SET OF POSTS THIS WEEK:

TOPIC: If you had entered into a joint venture with a foreign company but knew that women were not treated fairly in that culture, would you consider sending a female expatriate to handle the start-up? Why or why not?

MY RESPONSE:

No way!  Why would you? This is supposed to be a business venture and the point is to make money which isn't going to be possible when you send a woman who no one that she needs to work with or persuade is going to listen to.  A country where women are seen as second class citizens is not the same as a woman trying to be taken seriously in a male dominated profession in the states and this isn't a movie where some sassy lady is gonna win them over with her intelligence and personality.  They won't acknowledge her as a person and the venture is going to fail unless the men there are capable of knowing exactly what to do on their own with no help from her.  Not likely.  

A FEW OF MY CLASSMATES HAVE WRITTEN AND SAID THEY AGREE YAY VAGINAS AND BOO HODJ/MOOJ…BUT THEN…

Tammy L (i don't know why she's saying she just agrees w/ Kathi b/c Kathi just agreed w/ me in such a boring way i'm not even bothering putting it on here):

"Kathi,
You make a good point about the woman not being taken seriously. I think it is important not to judge our societal norms against those of another country. A question that immediately came to my mind when it said women are treated unfairly was, by who's definition? I know we are share some common definitions of fair and unfair, but in some countries that is their norm. I don't believe I would send a female either unless there was a movement for the liberation of the treatment of women and I had something to gain from a potential workforce."

SERIOUSLY? IS THIS DUMB TWAT REALLY SAYING WE SHOULDN'T JUDGE OTHER CULTURES IN REGARDS TO HOW THEY TREAT WOMEN? MY MOTRIN IS KICKING IN…SHE IS LUCKY…I'M GOING TO ASK IF THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SAYING…IF IT IS THEN I'M GOING TO TELL HER HER HUSBAND NEEDS TO PUT HER BACK IN THE KITCHEN AND KEEP HER AWAY FROM BAD INFLUENCES LIKE THIS "EDUCATION" (FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME WITH BETTER RESPONSES…IT'S LATE)

MY RESPONSE IN HOPES FOR A REACTION:

'" I think it is important not to judge our societal norms against those of another country. A question that immediately came to my mind when it said women are treated unfairly was, by who's definition? I know we are share some common definitions of fair and unfair, but in some countries that is their norm."

I just want to make sure I understand that you're saying that you think we shouldn't judge other cultures for their treatment of women…"

Kathi M. Responds

 Kathi M. Response:
"Jacqueline,

I may not have given enough rationalization of why it is unethical to call in sick when you aren't.  I believe it is unethical to lie in these sort of cases.  Saying you are sick when you're not is lying.  Also if someone used all their sick leave when they weren't sick, and then truly had a serious injury or illness (and no vacation time,) they'd be eligible (in civil service) to ask for others to donate their leave.  It isn't right to defraud others into donating their hard earned leave to you, after you lied and used your leave for other purposes other than that for which it was designed.  I believe your bad karma will get you when you least expect it.

For our discussion, I think we need to agree on a meaning of the term:  “ethics.”

I like the Santa Clara University Markkula Center for applied Ethics definition by Manuel Velasquez, Claire Andre, Thomas Shanks, S.J., and Michael J. Meyer.  They describe ethics as the following:

“Being ethical is also not the same as following the law. The law often incorporates ethical standards to which most citizens subscribe. But laws, like feelings, can deviate from what is ethical. Our own pre-Civil War slavery laws and the old apartheid laws of present-day South Africa are grotesquely obvious examples of laws that deviate from what is ethical.” (Velasquex, Andrew, Shanks, J., & Meyer, 2010)

 “Ethics refers to well-founded standards of right and wrong that prescribe what humans ought to do, usually in terms of rights, obligations, benefits to society, fairness, or specific virtues.. … Secondly, ethics refers to the study and development of one's ethical standards. As mentioned above, feelings, laws, and social norms can deviate from what is ethical. So it is necessary to constantly examine one's standards to ensure that they are reasonable and well-founded. Ethics also means, then, the continuous effort of studying our own moral beliefs and our moral conduct, and striving to ensure that we, and the institutions we help to shape, live up to standards that are reasonable and solidly-based.” (Velasquex, Andrew, Shanks, & Meyer, 2010)

 So let’s examine the copying of DVD’s before you return them.  Since being ethical isn’t always the same as following the law, is it unethical simply because it is illegal? I don't think so, if you consider some of the unfair laws we had in our own country years ago.  Ethics is following the standards of right and wrong, in terms of the rights and obligations and benefits to society. Does copying the DVD’s hurt society?  Is copying the DVD’s fair to the artists, distribution corporations, or stockholders in the production companies?  If not, then is it ethical?

Is flirting with a cop acting in a sexual way?  Even if it is, what is to say that it is unethical? Is it against the law to flirt? (not that being legal is a surefire way to determine the ethics of the situation) Is flirting against the standards of right and wrong in society?  Not in many cultures. 

Are you saying it is not unethical to run a stop sign or red light or exceed the speed limit?  Not sure what you mean here.  What is the obligation or benefit to society to follow the rules? 

Reference: 

Velasquex, M., Andrew, C., Shanks, T., J., S.,  & Meyer, M.J. (2010). What is ethics?. Retrieved from http://www.scu.edu/ethics/practicing/decision/whatisethics.html"

MY RESPONSE:

 Hi Kathi,

  If i had a soul it would hurt right now.. also I didn't read the stuff you copied and pasted in b/c much like the links provided on the homepage of this class I don't really care what some random person or group of people think about a certain topic if I don't agree on any level. (HERE I WAS REFERENCING THE FACT THAT OUR TEACHER PUT A POST ON THE HOMEPAGE WITH LINKS TO SOME BULLSHIT WEBSITES WHERE TEACHERS THINKS IT'S UNETHICAL TO USE YOUR OWN PAPER MORE THAN ONCE.) 

  Using sick days: That's a lot of "what if's" to make it unethical but if you get some terrible disease your ten sick days probably isn't going to cover it anyways also this isn't a conversation about lying to your coworkers to scam them out of their sick days once your poor decision in using your sick days catches up to you. 

  DVD's:  yeah it's technically stealing and not that i care i was just making a point at just calling it illegal.  

  Cops: Yes…flirting is in fact acting in a sexual way… when a boy and a girl like each other…never mind.  Anyways, my actual point before was that copying dvd's was unethical to you b/c it was illegal but you don't find flirting to get out of punishment for doing something illegal as unethical.